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This Midora Game Looks Kind of Interesting…

It’s apparently meant to be a return to the 2D gameplay of the classic Zelda series, as well as that in other similar series like the Mana franchise.  They plan to release it on the PC if their $60,000 goal is met, as well as possibly other systems in the future.

However… I think they may have made one minor mistake.  Read on to find out what…

Basically, here’s the trailer for the game:

Do you notice anything a tad familiar about some of the graphics?

Midora screen

Midora house screen

Midorascreen2

Yeah, they’re taken directly from The Legend of Zelda The Minish Cap. Okay, it’s still a work in progress and the tiles might be placeholders, but still… maybe it’s not a good idea to advertise a potential commercial game with resources taken from other titles you don’t own the rights to. Especially when said games are part of a series as well known as Zelda.

Edit: As proven by the makers of the game, they don’t actually use any Minish Cap graphics as placeholders. So I apologise for any confusion caused on this matter, since I was actually factually wrong on the matter.

It’s not a bad game from what I can tell, but either way, I think the devs might want to change the tilesets used as quickly as possible, simply to avoid getting sued when someone at Nintendo comes across their Kickstarter page. Just some friendly advice.

Source:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1867607597/midora

http://www.gamnesia.com/news/zelda-minish-cap-like-2d-adventure-midora-is-on-kickstarter

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  • Michael Ocampo

    Seems interesting. I instantly thought of the minish cap when i read that the graphics are familiar. (usually read then watch videos.)

  • Michael

    Eh, they should have shown some combat. In a game that’s based off of Zelda what I want to see is if they get the combat right.

  • Me

    The indoors places looks empty, the flow of the game looks slow as hell, and even the music it’s too similar with Minish Cap.

  • Guest

    Midora is not a direct copy of Minish Cap. We use Minish Cap as big source of inspiration for the art style, but everything is 100% original pixel art from our pixel artist. The pine tree from our forest does look very similar from the tree in the minish woods, but honestly what do you expect a pine tree to look like?

    Here’s the comparison between Minish Cap’s tree and ours:http://i43.tinypic.com/2a77xp4

    Our tiles are actually much bigger than the tiles from Minish Cap. We are making a game for PC, not GBA, and thus the pixel art takes a lot more time to create.

  • Mhyre

    Midora is not a direct copy of Minish Cap. We use Minish Cap as big source of inspiration for the art style, but everything is 100% original pixel art from our pixel artist. The pine tree from our forest does look very similar from the tree in the minish woods, but honestly what do you expect a pine tree to look like?

    Here’s the comparison between Minish Cap’s tree and ours:http://i43.tinypic.com/2a77xp4

    Our tiles are actually much bigger than the tiles from Minish Cap. They are not a copy, they are INSPIRED by Minish Cap. We have a lot more than just inspired tiles by Minish Cap, but that takes time to make so it’s not up for display yet. We are making a game for PC, not GBA, and thus the pixel art takes a lot more time to create.

    • Michael

      You really can’t just say “OUR TILES ARE ORIGINAL BECAUSE THEY’RE BIGGER AND LOOK BETTER!” The fact is that they just simply look like redrawn Minish Cap tiles, especially that cliff tile. Finally, many games have depicted pine trees differently, it’s not that hard.

      • Mhyre

        What do you expect a pine tree to look like when it’s inspired by Minish Cap in the first place? Minish Cap did not have that many details to begin with.
        Also you missed the point here, this article claims that Midora uses assets from Minish Cap as placeholders among other things. Such claims make me wonder if this site is even worth reading and, hell, even commenting on it.

        • http://nintendo3dscommunity.com/ CM30

          Okay, so the article has been edited to remove the placeholder thing, since it’s been proven incorrect.

          But the point about potential legal concerns still stands. Whether the graphics are completely identical doesn’t matter as much as whether they’re close enough that Nintendo could prove that they were… ‘inspired’ by the original game’s graphics.

          • Mhyre

            We believe that they are far enough from Minish Cap’s tiles to not cause any legal issues. We are making a tribute to the Minish Cap which we consider to be one of the best Zelda games ever made, mostly because we adore the pixel art from it. So far, we may have elements that are close to Minish Cap’s assets, but that’s just how things are, and you can’t copyright a tree because it’s a tree. We have a lot of assets which we haven’t shown yet, and you will soon see how unique Midora really is.

          • Adam

            Just a word of advice; you guys are handling criticism pretty poorly. If you’re going to make a product, there’s going to be criticism and going to every single site that criticizes you and trying to prove them wrong isn’t the way of doing it. I hope you guys calm down a bit because it’s turning some people off to your project. Examine the criticism, think about it, then move on. Making a game that looks a little less like a Minish Cap clone might actually draw more contributions.

          • Mhyre

            I know how to handle criticism. My point here is that I have to show what the project is about on websites like this that make false claims and don’t even take a closer look before making these claims. I don’t care if you want it to look more or less like a Minish Cap clone, my problem here is that with reviews like this, a lot of people are jumping on some kind of insult bandwagon, and that’s really something I could do without these days (especially during a kickstarter campaign where I have to reply to a lot of questions and more). I know when to stop, and I know not to feed trolls, believe me.

            For example, people suggesting we should make a video showing more gameplay are helpful, because that’s exactly what we are doing right now.

            Criticism with perhaps some suggestions versus false claims. See the difference?

    • http://nintendo3dscommunity.com/ CM30

      One minor issue with that though…

      Just because sprites are technically different/unique doesn’t mean they’re ‘different enough’ that they’re okay legally. Same with any other graphics, music, or other such elements.

      After all, quite a few iphone/app store games tried to copy the look and feel of official Nintendo games in similar ways (with their own unique sprites that looked like the official Nintendo ones but weren’t copies). They still either got sued, removed from the store or forced to change their graphics more to differentiate their works from those by Nintendo. Examples include Super Lep World/Super Jump World (which had to change many of its tiles to minimise similarities with New Super Mario Bros), Mole Kart (which was a rip off in terms of actual level design too, but also had graphics which were way too similar to those in Mario Kart Wii) and quite a few Pokemon clones (which had Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald/Fire Red/Leaf Green inspired sprites, and which were still seen as kind of illegal regardless).

      Now obviously, your game looks better than those ones in terms of graphics/originality, but the point still stands. Copyright law and ‘plagiarism’ and whatever else are not just ‘if it doesn’t match perfectly its fine’. It’s whether it’s seen as too similar to the original, to the point where someone could theoretically mistake it for such. Heck, if certain Nintendo games (like A Link Between Worlds) were unofficial, they would have been seen as ‘too close’ to older titles and classed as potentially infringing. And thes games look a hell of a lot more different from their predecessors than your game does to Minish Cap.

  • Mhyre

    Here’s our complete answer to untrue claims from this article: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1867607597/midora/posts/706763